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Friday, August 26, 2005

Is 3. Bc4 a coffee house move ?? part one

I am white and J'adoube is black.

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bc4

Is Bc4 a coffeehouse move???????

What do you think? please comment
Inquiring minds want to know


  • At 4:35 AM, Blogger Temposchlucker said…

    It looks like a gambit where black can get serious trouble if he doesn't give the pawn back at the right moment. But if he does, he stands a little better, because he gains a tempo with d5, kicking the bishop on c4. That's the main drawback of 3. Bc4

  • At 7:06 AM, Blogger Jim said…

    Well, "coffee house" move sounds derogatory.

    Where I come from, it's called the Italian game. . .

    The typical answer to Bc4 is Bc5, which I didn't play. . .

  • At 10:59 AM, Blogger takchess said…

    Yes it is derogatory phrase that Chernev uses in Logical Chess move by move when he goes on a rant on what he considers a bad move.(see game one)I have just started playing it instead of the main line of the Petroff.

    I am curious what others think of it as I like to play it but am unsure of it's soundness in that blacks response is NXe4.

    White side is the Italian game formation (guicio Piano) but blacks is different 2nd move that in the Guicio in that Blacks Knight is played to f6 as in the Petroff/Russian Defense. So it somewhat different and possibly a poor move.

    If black were to play N-c6 then it would transpose to the two Knights defence.

    In a second future post I have links to follow on games from a historical perspective Morphy,Lasker and Alekhine with links to

    Just curious first as to what people think about it.

  • At 11:16 AM, Blogger Bloggit'er said…

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  • At 2:55 PM, Blogger DreadPirateJosh said…

    That's not the Italian Game, the italian game is e4 e5 nf3 nc6 (not nf6) bc4 (then bc5) ... its my most played opening.


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