Takchess Chess Improvement

A Novice chessplayer works to get better at chess using an improvement program based upon the methods of Michael de la Maza and the teachings of Dan Heisman

Sunday, August 28, 2005

Is 3. Bc4 a coffee house move ?? part two

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bc4

3....NXe4 4.Nc3 is the continuation I like to play when N takes e4.

This is the Boden-Kieseritzky Gambit.

Here are some representative games:

Morphy wins with it


Boden draws with Morphy with it


Allies vs Alekhine


Lasker is beaten by Harlaub with it


Revenge ! Harlaub trys again and Lasker beats him silly


Lasker wins with it(paste pgn file in the pgn viewer)

[Event "Philadelphia sim"]
[Site "Philadelphia"]
[Date "1892.??.??"]
[Round "0"]
[White "Lasker,Emanuel"]
[Black "Martinez,Dion M"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Eco "C42"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Nxe4 4.Nc3 Be7 5.Nxe5 Ng5 6.d4 d6 7.Bxg5 dxe5 8.Bxe7 Qxe7
9.Nd5 Qd6 10.Qe2 c6 11.dxe5 Qd8 12.Nf4 0-0 13.0-0 Kh8 14.Qh5 Qe8 15.Rad1 Nd7 16.Rfe1 b5
17.Bd3 g6 18.Qh6 Nc5 19.Nh5 1-0



  • At 10:21 PM, Blogger bahus said…

    I've played Petroff and 3.Bc4 is played often in blitz games. In my experience if black tries to hold that extra pawn he is in trouble so I usually give it back (playing ..d6 and ..f6 gives white a good attack like in the games you showed).

    To my mind the best reply is 4..Nc6!? (1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Nxe4 4.Nc3 Nc6). Usually game continues 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Bxd5 Qxd5 (6.Bd3 dxe4 7.Bxe4 is better but most people don't play it). Black tries to play Bg5 and 0-0-0.

    - bahus

  • At 3:02 AM, Blogger takchess said…

    Thanks for post. I am finding your posts on Finnish players interesting. My grandparents imigrated to the US from Finland in the 20's.They came from Tampere and Turku.(sp)

  • At 1:50 PM, Blogger Qaundoman said…

    I suppose a move's being "coffee house" is derogatory. But I've played that line and beaten A players OTB with it. It may be coffee house (though I find the term "coffee house" vague), but who cares if it gets the job done. Sure, you probably can't play that stuff after you've reached Expert, but in the meantime, moves like 3. Bc4 lend themselves to tactics.

    Best of luck to ya.

  • At 9:50 AM, Blogger King of the Spill said…

    I don't know whether or not its"coffee house", but I think the consensus is White has slightly better options. Clearly it's still anybody's game.

  • At 5:31 AM, Blogger seo said…

    Lasker gets clobbered in this game. I'm not sure why Harlaub lost the game, his position is great. He could have continued 10. Re1+ with, according to Rybka, huge advantage to white.

    Revenge ! Harlaub trys again and Lasker beats him silly



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